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	<title>Comments on: Psion explains its trademark position, probably won&#8217;t sue me</title>
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		<title>By: savethenetbooks</title>
		<link>http://www.liliputing.com/2008/12/psion-explains-its-trademark-position-probably-wont-sue-me.html/comment-page-1#comment-15641</link>
		<dc:creator>savethenetbooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Save the Netbooks&quot; campaign launched to fight impending trademark threat&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The &quot;Save the Netbooks&quot; campaign is fighting the impending trademark threat from Psion Teklogix, who have given until the end of March 2009 to cease using the term citing trademarks relating to a line of products discontinued over 5 years ago.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For more information visit &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.savethenetbooks.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.savethenetbooks.com/&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PS does it really make much difference that they won&#039;t sue you if they&#039;re going to go after the manufacturers and retailers anyway? Well, read their statement on the site under &#039;Learn&#039; and you&#039;ll see you should be fine (actually with any luck we all should be fine!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Save the Netbooks&#8221; campaign launched to fight impending trademark threat</p>
<p>The &#8220;Save the Netbooks&#8221; campaign is fighting the impending trademark threat from Psion Teklogix, who have given until the end of March 2009 to cease using the term citing trademarks relating to a line of products discontinued over 5 years ago.</p>
<p>For more information visit <a href="http://www.savethenetbooks.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.savethenetbooks.com/</a>.</p>
<p>PS does it really make much difference that they won&#39;t sue you if they&#39;re going to go after the manufacturers and retailers anyway? Well, read their statement on the site under &#39;Learn&#39; and you&#39;ll see you should be fine (actually with any luck we all should be fine!)</p>
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		<title>By: TomLeeM/BigWarpGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>TomLeeM/BigWarpGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 03:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be like Xerox suing any body using  their name as  generic way  of  describing copying things or Frigiddair suing any one using Refergerator as  a generic term for ice boxes.. It is a too commonly used word to keep it from being used in generic way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be like Xerox suing any body using  their name as  generic way  of  describing copying things or Frigiddair suing any one using Refergerator as  a generic term for ice boxes.. It is a too commonly used word to keep it from being used in generic way.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Netbook&#8221;-Abmahnungen: Klarstellung &#187; UMPC Markt &#187; Netbux</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;Netbook&#8221;-Abmahnungen: Klarstellung &#187; UMPC Markt &#187; Netbux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 13:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] dem Ziel handeln, Anwender zum Kauf von Notebook und Netbook zu bewegen - offensichtlich etwa in dieser Flash-Präsentation eines großen US-Shops. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] dem Ziel handeln, Anwender zum Kauf von Notebook und Netbook zu bewegen &#8211; offensichtlich etwa in dieser Flash-Präsentation eines großen US-Shops. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Psion explains &#34;Netbook&#34; legal offensive &#124; Sugar Mob</title>
		<link>http://www.liliputing.com/2008/12/psion-explains-its-trademark-position-probably-wont-sue-me.html/comment-page-1#comment-12422</link>
		<dc:creator>Psion explains &#34;Netbook&#34; legal offensive &#124; Sugar Mob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] which owns a trademark on &#8220;Netbook,&#8221; says it&#8217;s after manufacturers who use the word to market their products, not websites that talk about them. The mixup occurred thanks to Amazon ads, or something. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] which owns a trademark on &#8220;Netbook,&#8221; says it&#8217;s after manufacturers who use the word to market their products, not websites that talk about them. The mixup occurred thanks to Amazon ads, or something. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Actual Technology News Blog &#187; Psion explains "Netbook" legal offensive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Actual Technology News Blog &#187; Psion explains "Netbook" legal offensive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] which owns a trademark on &#8220;Netbook,&#8221; says it&#8217;s after manufacturers who use the word to market their products, not websites that talk about them. The mixup occurred thanks to Amazon ads, or something. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] which owns a trademark on &#8220;Netbook,&#8221; says it&#8217;s after manufacturers who use the word to market their products, not websites that talk about them. The mixup occurred thanks to Amazon ads, or something. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also wonder why Psion is choosing to spend money to protect the word &quot;netbook&quot;. How will they realize a profit from the money they spend during this effort?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My best guess is as follows: if Psion can succesfully curtail public use of the name, they will have control over a term that has serious weight in the marketplace. Then they could sell the rights to the word netbook, perhaps to dell or some other major player, who would then have exclusive use of the name. The key, though, is first getting control of the name, which is what they&#039;re trying to do now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also wonder why Psion is choosing to spend money to protect the word &#8220;netbook&#8221;. How will they realize a profit from the money they spend during this effort?</p>
<p>My best guess is as follows: if Psion can succesfully curtail public use of the name, they will have control over a term that has serious weight in the marketplace. Then they could sell the rights to the word netbook, perhaps to dell or some other major player, who would then have exclusive use of the name. The key, though, is first getting control of the name, which is what they&#39;re trying to do now.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quick on-line search of the USPTO database shows for:&lt;br&gt;Liliputer, Liliputers, Lilliputer, Lilliputers &lt;br&gt;None of them are registered (to show at the quick-search level anyway).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here is your link Brad:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uspto.gov/teas/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.uspto.gov/teas/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Get out your checkbook (about $300) and file. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick on-line search of the USPTO database shows for:<br />Liliputer, Liliputers, Lilliputer, Lilliputers <br />None of them are registered (to show at the quick-search level anyway).</p>
<p>Here is your link Brad:<br /><a href="http://www.uspto.gov/teas/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.uspto.gov/teas/index.html</a><br />Get out your checkbook (about $300) and file. <img src='http://www.liliputing.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mikez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who can&#039;t find it, here is a repeat of the TDR link:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://tmportal.uspto.gov/external/portal/tow?SRCH=Y&amp;isSubmitted=true&amp;details=&amp;SELECT=US+Serial+No&amp;TEXT=75215401#&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tmportal.uspto.gov/external/portal/tow?S...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who can&#39;t find it, here is a repeat of the TDR link:<br /><a href="http://tmportal.uspto.gov/external/portal/tow?SRCH=Y&#038;isSubmitted=true&#038;details=&#038;SELECT=US+Serial+No&#038;TEXT=75215401#" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://tmportal.uspto.gov/external/portal/tow?S.." rel="nofollow">http://tmportal.uspto.gov/external/portal/tow?S..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just read the re-printed response letter linked too by Brad -&lt;br&gt;That is the same general position that Hormel Foods takes over: &quot;SPAM&quot; -&lt;br&gt;&quot;no for-profit use&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As to that qualifying as a &quot;diligent defense&quot; (only defending against &lt;br&gt;&quot;for-profit&quot; use) in U.S. Trademark law is a matter for the court system.&lt;br&gt;If you dig through the public records at the PTO you will find there are&lt;br&gt;a large number of &quot;Hormel Foods Vs. ...&quot; on that subject.&lt;br&gt;Also that this point has been going on for many years without a decision.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With Pison&#039;s representatives taking the same position over &#039;Netbook&quot; as&lt;br&gt;that of Hormel Foods position over &#039;SPAM&#039; does not mean they are correct;&lt;br&gt;but it does assure the legal firm of decades more income. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read the re-printed response letter linked too by Brad -<br />That is the same general position that Hormel Foods takes over: &#8220;SPAM&#8221; -<br />&#8220;no for-profit use&#8221;.</p>
<p>As to that qualifying as a &#8220;diligent defense&#8221; (only defending against <br />&#8220;for-profit&#8221; use) in U.S. Trademark law is a matter for the court system.<br />If you dig through the public records at the PTO you will find there are<br />a large number of &#8220;Hormel Foods Vs. &#8230;&#8221; on that subject.<br />Also that this point has been going on for many years without a decision.</p>
<p>With Pison&#39;s representatives taking the same position over &#39;Netbook&#8221; as<br />that of Hormel Foods position over &#39;SPAM&#39; does not mean they are correct;<br />but it does assure the legal firm of decades more income. <img src='http://www.liliputing.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mikez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris&#039;s comment is on-point (at least for the U.S.) -&lt;br&gt;If the trademark holder does not &quot;diligently defend&quot; their trademark,&lt;br&gt;it becomes impossible to defend and can lead to cancellation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am not a lawyer either - but picked up some first hand knowledge on&lt;br&gt;this subject while dealing with Hormel Foods (SPAM(r) luncheon meat)&lt;br&gt;and my own SpamViz product/web-sites. ;)  (Hormel out spent me.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why now?&lt;br&gt;If you check over the documents in that link to TDR in the earlier blog,&lt;br&gt;you will find a recent change in legal representation.  Pison&#039;s new legal&lt;br&gt;firm may be &#039;more diligent&#039; than the previous one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris&#39;s comment is on-point (at least for the U.S.) -<br />If the trademark holder does not &#8220;diligently defend&#8221; their trademark,<br />it becomes impossible to defend and can lead to cancellation.</p>
<p>I am not a lawyer either &#8211; but picked up some first hand knowledge on<br />this subject while dealing with Hormel Foods (SPAM(r) luncheon meat)<br />and my own SpamViz product/web-sites. <img src='http://www.liliputing.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   (Hormel out spent me.)</p>
<p>Why now?<br />If you check over the documents in that link to TDR in the earlier blog,<br />you will find a recent change in legal representation.  Pison&#39;s new legal<br />firm may be &#39;more diligent&#39; than the previous one.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 08:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is rule #1 about trademarks: If companies don&#039;t immediately sue others over violations, they will LOSE the trademark and cannot sue for future violations.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So in other words, if Psion didn&#039;t sue other companies/bloggers over &quot;Netbook&quot; (especially Intel), they have already lost the trademark to Netbook. This is how it works in the United States, and may not necessarily be true in other countries in the world. The cease and desist orders are merely scare tactics which hold little meaning. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(by the way, I work for the government, and deal with lawyers a lot, though I am not a lawyer myself)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is rule #1 about trademarks: If companies don&#39;t immediately sue others over violations, they will LOSE the trademark and cannot sue for future violations.</p>
<p>So in other words, if Psion didn&#39;t sue other companies/bloggers over &#8220;Netbook&#8221; (especially Intel), they have already lost the trademark to Netbook. This is how it works in the United States, and may not necessarily be true in other countries in the world. The cease and desist orders are merely scare tactics which hold little meaning. </p>
<p>(by the way, I work for the government, and deal with lawyers a lot, though I am not a lawyer myself)</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xavier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 08:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad- look on the bright side: there&#039;s a slim chance that everyone will have to start calling &#039;em Lilputers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad- look on the bright side: there&#39;s a slim chance that everyone will have to start calling &#39;em Lilputers.</p>
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